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CopterControl has 10 outputs: OctoCopter plus Camera Stabilization support


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#1 peabody124

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 04:01 PM



There is now an option to select so the receiver port becomes 4 channels of output (so only use when you don't plug in a PWM receiver).  Inputs 3-6 become outputs 7-10.  In this case I used outputs 5 and 6 for camera stabilization (to power the servos) and then directly plugged the signal from each receiver pin into the ESC connector.  The ground came from the battery path, but a breakout board that shares the ground from the receiver header might be good in the future.

I also demo'd that it can fly fine on 7 motors although yaw and roll became weakly coupled.

This was also a really good test of what CopterControl can do because I just threw this upgrade together without much planning.  Four of the motors were ParkFlyer 480 on Turnigy 25A ESC (I know, barely safe) and four were KEDA 20-22L on SS 18A ESCs.  Two of the arms were CF and seemed to resonate much more than the other 6 aluminum arms.

The frame was a UAP1 frame from AGL hobbies.  I really liked how I could just upgrade it from quad to octo.  I'm using a Jakub's gimbal mounted from Rusty's vibration isolation camera mount which worked quite well.  I didn't really do any tuning on this - just installed other motors and configured the octo.  The only thing I did was move the mixer slider from 33% to 80% which is necessary if you are going to do things like turn off a motor.  We probably should change that default.

Anyway, this will be going to an internal testing release this week and hopefully released in 1-2 weeks.  Then hopefully some of you camera buffs can get some high quality setups and really show what this can do.

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 04:43 PM

Awesome! Does this need any work on the GCS config widget? Let me know, I'll do it...

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 04:45 PM

awesome news... you did a great job!!!

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 04:49 PM

Very nice Work

Thanks :lol:

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 04:49 PM

View PostEdouard, on 24 October 2011 - 04:43 PM, said:

Awesome! Does this need any work on the GCS config widget? Let me know, I'll do it...

Nope, I did all already so it was all configured with GCS.  However, we might want to change the default mixer strengths I think.  This will mean the PID settings will change but does allow it to fly better with a missing blade.

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 05:03 PM

Oh Great, Now I have to build one...Nice work James...you continue to amaze me
Looking Forward to the Maiden

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 05:03 PM

Great work on the 10 outputs James!  Nice demo too B)

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 05:13 PM

Thank you, thank you! I just destroyed a quad yesterday and thinking about building another Y6. I also have 2 axis camera gimbals on the way so I need to test them. I can now test them on the Y6!!!!!

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 05:17 PM

View PostRusty, on 24 October 2011 - 05:03 PM, said:

Great work on the 10 outputs James!  Nice demo too B)

Heh.  Well it's a great frame to work with ;-).  Just slightly too big to fly in and out of trunk though.  I need to post some video from flying in Austin with the quad version, that I got really stable.  This still needs some tuning.

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 05:17 PM

Wow, that really is great! It has always been a pity for PPM users that they couldn't make use of the free resources. You're once again pushing the limits :-)

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 05:44 PM

Techically we could have 12 channels of output when we disable PPM input (spektrum or sbus) and I'm sure now that we have 10 people will start asking for 12.  I'm just trying to save some memory.  Hopefully soon we'll rewrite how the mixer maps to outputs so we can have more channels for miscellaneous stuff (i.e. 12) while only having 8 mixer channels.

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 06:01 PM

applause  :)

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 07:14 PM

View PostSeismicCWave, on 24 October 2011 - 05:13 PM, said:

Thank you, thank you! I just destroyed a quad yesterday and thinking about building another Y6. I also have 2 axis camera gimbals on the way so I need to test them. I can now test them on the Y6!!!!!
Are you having a tough month destroying quads?  I hope there wasn't a camera on this one.

I want to use a 10CHG Futaba with a Y6 and HEX with camera stability, what receiver do I need?

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 07:23 PM

You'd need to use a receiver that either outputs either PPM or SBus.

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 07:35 PM

>>Are you having a tough month destroying quads?  I hope there wasn't a camera on this one.<<

Yes, my Sony NEX 5 was onboard but the quad absorbed the impact and it was not from that high.

That's the nature of our business. It is very risky. That's why we have to take all precaution for safety.

I only broke the frame. Camera is ok. I think the camera battery died but that was on the way out.

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 08:38 PM

Nice work! And unlike others, I'd like to say to you and test team: don't rush with release and take as much time as you need :)

Someone can find it interesting, this is how software for Space Shuttle was written (6 pages):
http://www.fastcompa...f.html?page=0,0

Thumbs up for "Stay Crunchy" :)

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 08:45 PM

Very impressive James!

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 09:11 PM

View PostAv8Chuck, on 24 October 2011 - 07:14 PM, said:

I want to use a 10CHG Futaba with a Y6 and HEX with camera stability, what receiver do I need?
Futaba R6203SB should be the best choice: small, full-range, only 4 outputs of which you need just one - S.Bus, direct connection to the serial port of CC.

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 09:23 PM

Nice one Peabody!
I did test this hardcoded (as you know) several weeks ago with my Y6 and camera stabilisation but after a short liftoff two ESC decided to give up and the Y6 was mounted down for a rebuild. (I didn't like that it is to hard to work with the Y6 frame I got and change things like the ESC:s)

One thing. After I have seen your video I realize it would be perfect for testing youtubes new anti shake filter!
Could you please try that with this video? Would be nice to know how good it is...(Because using anti shake on my computer means days of wait....)

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 09:45 PM

hah! ... finally home from work so I could see the video .... great job, you da man James :)